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Rene Site Admin

Joined: 18 Nov 2003 Posts: 90 Location: Thornton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: Creating a new reality through change |
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Greetings Everyone
I thought it was time to share a few concepts I've used and applied to my life to help me with my growth and with change.
When I began my own journey back in 1997, I had no real understanding of what lay ahead of me. I thought I was simply going to change my life and the circumstances I kept finding myself in. Never would I have guessed that I would have to literally change myself so that my life could change. I thought first life would change and then I would be happy and content. Never would I have guessed that I had to achieve happiness and contentment first and then life would change.
I say this now because I've noticed throughout this forum a great deal of struggle, conflict, and yes joy at the journey. That is "wonderful" as a group of entities we know would say.
But at what point do you let go of the mind's fascination with introspection and simply begin to apply all of the lessons learned to your existence? At what point do we, as conscious people, make a choice that is really fearful and truly let go of the attachment we keep thinking we don't have but which we keep going back to? I mean here the attachment to observe how amazing and brilliant we are at choosing. At what point do we actually start simply living life, exploring the unknown without fascination, going into the uncomfortable, not out of a desire to overcome, to achieve, to get past something, but simply out of the choice that it's there so why not?
These and other similar questions are what has guided me on my own journey these many years. And yes it took me a long while to actually start asking these questions and then using them to choose.
Some of you are concerned about your inability to use your minds as you used to. I say great ... it's about time. Some of you have expressed your fears at not being a part of society at large. I say great ... it's about time. You can't change anything when you are simply experiencing it. You can only change something when you can detach yourself so completely that observation without attachment is possible, and then clarity of direction emerges.
All of you are choosing to explore yourselves for different reasons on the surface, but underneath it all there is only one real reason to do so. And that's to change that which surrounds you to allow yourself to be truly reflected back to you. So this is where clarity of direction is necessary. Don't fear the process of detachment. Don't fear the idea of not belonging. Instead embrace it so that you may truly gain the clarity of perception that would lead you past the illusions you've surrounded yourself with in the past, and so that you may then regain your selves as the truly brilliant people you are without the mind's judgment of that.
Don't misunderstand. Keep posting your ideas, constructs, and perceptions. Keep sharing your journeys. Keep going deeper into your exploration. Just keep asking yourself these questions.
All the best on your journey. I knows mine has/is/will be fun. _________________ Love, Light, and Peace
Rene |
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Judy

Joined: 22 Nov 2003 Posts: 1641 Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you - I needed that!!!!!
I'll keep going in & go for the full detachment from those fears.
Judy _________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ1wtftL3nA - NOW |
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David

Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 752 Location: Big Island Down Under
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Creating a new reality through change |
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| Rene wrote: | | All of you are choosing to explore yourselves for different reasons on the surface, but underneath it all there is only one real reason to do so. And that's to change that which surrounds you to allow yourself to be truly reflected back to you. So this is where clarity of direction is necessary. Don't fear the process of detachment. Don't fear the idea of not belonging. Instead embrace it so that you may truly gain the clarity of perception that would lead you past the illusions you've surrounded yourself with in the past, and so that you may then regain your selves as the truly brilliant people you are without the mind's judgment of that.. |
Thank you also for these reminders Rene.
Cheers
David _________________ Choose, choose, choose, you can't lose. |
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Jeff Scarrott

Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 1666 Location: Toronto.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Greetings Rene..
I appreciate your words..How true and how often I get caught up in my own excitment and fascination..
Your absolutly right in that the true mature self will just "be" and let go of the fascination, and simply engage into reality. Get into being ourselves instead of being so suprised that we can..
I'm on my way..Thanks for your help..
With Love Jeff |
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James Reyes-Picknell

Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 261 Location: Barrie, ON, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Greetings,
Thanks Rene. This is exactly what I'm learning through the Teacher Program. My initial reasons seem to have melted away. Some of that is because I'm manifesting more of what I started out to seek but mostly it's because the deeper reason - getting to know my own brilliance is emerging more consciously.
Love to all, _________________ Jim
Pull a stick out of the beaver dam each day! |
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angela
Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 269 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't notice this thread before...but I guess I was ready to read it! Thank you Rene for the reminder, you and Maggie and the Wonders are awesome brilliant coaches on this journey.
I needed this reminder not to get so entrapped or enticed with my own fascination of myself and my ability to choose, rather than just choosing and being and doing...
chayama |
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Aileen Reyes-Picknell

Joined: 12 Dec 2003 Posts: 192 Location: Barrie, Ontario
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Rene for that reminder. It is timely and helpful to us all. I appreciate the experiences you share with us of your journey. You have a way of putting things back into perspective after we stray from ourselves and you have this way because you live your conscious journey and know from your own observations. Although the Wonders' provide all the wonderful information, awareness, energy, etc. for all, it is through yours and Maggie's support and experience is where we can see what it means and what this journey can feel like through human actions, feelings and experience. As amazing as the Wonders' are, this is something the Wonders' just can't do since they aren't physical.
Thank you for all of it.
Love,
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Eleanor

Joined: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: |
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Greetings everyone!
I think that this sort of exploration, without fascination, just because it is there, is difficult in a way because we are emotional. Fascination is a kind of emotion, a strong interest, a curiosity.
The hidden emotion is fear. That going into the unknown is scary - and we can choose to feel positive (curious) or negative (fear). We find it easy to judge experience in dualities. We find it difficult to just be in a new way.
Thank you for your thoughts.
Love light and peace
Eleanor |
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Tina
Joined: 04 Aug 2006 Posts: 760
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Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:33 am Post subject: |
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hmmm, building on something Eleanor is pointing to, here's my experience with this 'concept'.
For me, being connected to & having the ability to express my emotions honestly AND having the ability to detach emotionally are not mutually exclusive, nor are they opposing. In fact, for me, it isn't even possible to have one ability without the other.
In being honestly connected to my feelings, I can freely 'choose' observation without attachment. I see it as simply one of the choices available in my emotional spectrum.
I guess what I'm getting at is that, for me, to "observe without attachment" doesn't in any way mean to observe without feeling or emotion. We are amazing, complex beings. We are capable of allowing honest feeling to be fully present even when the choice to observe without attachment is being made simultaneously.
Perhaps getting out of your mind means getting into your heart. |
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Melody Prosser

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 967 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Greetings Tina,
"Perhaps getting out of your mind means getting into your heart."
This is what The Abundance retreat was all about. It is there for the choosing.
Love,
Melody _________________ "The only thing better than singing is more singing" Ella Fitzgerald |
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Jeff Scarrott

Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 1666 Location: Toronto.
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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getting into the heart.
when I see that word my heart charkra opens up.
the sharing that is from the heart, and goes beyond the mind is the kind of sharing that will open up doors to our limitlessness. |
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Melody Prosser

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 967 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSh2XeLY7YE
Do you feel like he's singing about us? Not in a self-centered way, if you get what I mean.
Love,
Melody _________________ "The only thing better than singing is more singing" Ella Fitzgerald |
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Eleanor

Joined: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 23 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Creating a new reality through change |
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| Rene wrote: | At what point do we actually start simply living life, exploring the unknown without fascination, going into the uncomfortable, not out of a desire to overcome, to achieve, to get past something, but simply out of the choice that it's there so why not?
You can't change anything when you are simply experiencing it. You can only change something when you can detach yourself so completely that observation without attachment is possible, and then clarity of direction emerges.
... there is only one real reason to do so. And that's to change that which surrounds you to allow yourself to be truly reflected back to you. So this is where clarity of direction is necessary. Don't fear the process of detachment. Don't fear the idea of not belonging. Instead embrace it so that you may truly gain the clarity of perception that would lead you past the illusions you've surrounded yourself with in the past, and so that you may then regain your selves as the truly brilliant people you are without the mind's judgment of that.
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After wondering for at least 3 years why I feel less and less emotion, and less need to respond to the emotions of others, I finally have a new perspective on what's happening with me. I am not becoming cold or heartless. I am just becoming detached. It's a new idea for me, and finding this thread again has opened my eyes.
Thank you for expressing what is so hard to express.
Love, light and peace
Eleanor |
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