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Why is so much importance given to the “thoughtless” state in spiritual growth?

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“It isn’t that there is so much importance to the ‘thoughtless’ state of the mind, it is that the desire is to achieve a point where the mind doesn’t interfere in choice.

The key here is to understand that as long as the mind is busy thinking, as long as the mind isn’t observing and is actually making the choices, then you create an existence that is reflective of the mind and its fears, its illusion, and, as a result, you’re letting that happen to yourselves.

The point of spiritual exploration is to come to a point of understanding where you yourself command the mind, that the mind is a tool, nothing more. It is powerful, we agree, but it is only a tool. And that’s what’s missing here.

You’re not recognizing the power of the tool, but you’re still not recognizing as well that it is only a tool.

And in recognizing that it is only a tool then, you don’t want to give it the opportunity to make choice because it simply is too busy thinking and it chooses as a result of its thinking processes. What you want to do is learn to command it. And in learning to command it, often times it requires the mind to gain a certain state of quietude so that it can hear, it can listen to your commands.

And that’s why you’re moving into that ‘thoughtless’ state: because you’re trying to quiet the mind to listen to the commands the self is giving it.”

– The Wonders

 

Changing your life is not pretty or perfect

“Quit looking for guarantee, absolutes, that which is of total necessity for yourselves to change.

You know what you want to do with your lives. You know where you want to go. You know what you want to achieve.

Does it matter how you get there? Does it matter when you get there? The answer to both of those questions is no. What matters is that you do get there. And to do that, you must start choosing to get there.

It’s not pretty, it is not perfect, you will not do it through an achievement of absolute control and perfection. And yes, there will times when you will look at yourselves and say ‘I made a mistake, I shouldn’t have done that’.

But even with all of those mistakes, you’re still taking the steps to achieve what you set out to achieve. What you see as a mistake is a step that you’ve judged incorrectly.

It is a step. You may not have liked the results. Maybe, from your perspective, it created more fear in you, created more angst, more worry, more judgment. But that’s just you letting your mind do all of this.

The step itself was necessary for if it wasn’t necessary, you wouldn’t of taken the step. Each step you take is a necessity as a result of the journey that you have chosen, and the direction you’ve chosen, and how to walk that journey you’ve chosen.”

– The Wonders

 

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Does comparison limit our existence?

“I realized in that session that we use comparison. We use everything as a point of comparison. We compare – we say ‘this is good, this is better; this is good, this is bad’. And we compare things.

And I realized that what The Wonders are trying to point out to us – and I saw it – is that there is a bar. We have a bar in our life and that bar is everything that’s acceptable to us. Beyond that is better, below that is not so good.

Now, if we want to, we raise the bar up and down so that we change what’s better and what’s not better. You know, like a high jumper. When a high jumper starts, they start off at maybe 4’2”, and then they go 4’4”, 4’6”. And every time they jump, they raise that bar.

The same idea we do in our life. We take that bar of what’s acceptable to us and we raise it up and down. It goes up and down. And when we get to the point where we can’t jump over the bar anymore, we lower it just a little bit just so that that’s acceptable until we gain some strengths and some talents and abilities, and then we go beyond that bar again.

But what I realized in this session is that the bar doesn’t even have to exist because if we know that every time we jump, to use the analogy of the high jumper, if every time we jump, it’s okay, it has benefit, then it doesn’t matter how high we jump, where we jump, how far we jump, where it is, what the measurement is. There is no measurement, it’s just that we jump.

So we’re moving away from keeping that bar as a way of comparing ourselves in our existence to removing the bar and seeing that everything we have, and everything we are is total freedom, and to give ourselves that through choice.”

– Rene Gaudette

 

Excerpt from This Is Good, But This Is Better

 

Why some win the lottery while others don’t

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“The universe itself that surrounds you, the energy that surrounds you, is designed to bring to you all that you would choose. And many individuals don’t choose wealth financial, but do choose wealth emotional, mental, and spiritual. Many individuals do choose wealth financial and don’t choose wealth emotional, mental, and spiritual, and any permutation or combination of the above.

As a result, it is based on what you would like. The universe is more than willing to give it to you. But how can you accept, how can you observe enough, how can you perceive that which the universe is willing to give to you if you yourself cannot observe that which you are, that which you have?

And we emphasize this, and we continue to emphasize this for its importance, dear friends. You must be willing to observe all that you have before you will allow yourself to accept a great deal more.

Now, some individuals will say that they haven’t observed all that they have but yet they gain a great deal. They gain wealth. And we would suggest yes, but that which they gain fits within the parameters of that which they know they already have.

It isn’t that they get more than they have. It is that they get what they have in a different form.

As a result, the individual that wins the lottery gains what he has. True, from one perspective it could be said ‘but he doesn’t have the million dollars so how could he gain what he already has? He’s obviously gained more.’ But he does see himself or herself as being financially wealthy. And so the million dollars fits within the parameters of the belief structure that says they are wealthy.

And he also sees himself as lucky; she sees herself as lucky. As a result, the winning part of the event fits within the parameters of luck within their psychology.

So it isn’t that they’re gaining more than they have, it is that they’re getting what they already know they have.”

– The Wonders

 

Why are human beings generally dissatisfied with whatever they have?

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“Most human beings use this as a way of push. It’s a push energy to get them to choose differently. They fail to realize that all they have to do is choose.

So they create within themselves a dissatisfaction of their present environment in order to push themselves to a new environment.

Why do that?

It takes a lot of energy to create dissatisfaction because you must spend a lot of time judging. You spend all of that time judging, and you don’t choose. Wouldn’t it be easier to just simply choose?”

– The Wonders